Written by Jim the Realtor

November 20, 2009

This property in Bonsall is on the court house steps today. 

Here is the MLS description from when it sold for $490,000 in 2002:

Working horse ranch, huge corral, 2 stalls w/shelter plus extra second corral and miles of trails nearby.  Open floor plan that is mostly single level with a few steps up and down.  Large balcony off home with spa.  Land is fenced, mostly usuable – small fruit orchard.  No garage but 900sf pad.

And it features my favorite street sign in the beginning!

20 Comments

  1. clearfund

    Cash for Keys….cash for Horses

  2. Sean

    Postponed to Dec. 14 – bummer, but sadly the most common outcome on auction day. Which may prove to be your biggest hurdle with buyers. It gets exhausting to stalk these properties from postponement to postponement and who knows if it will ultimately get cancelled due to some bullshit loan mod.

  3. Jim the Realtor

    Another last-minute postponed. It was a go when I left this morning, and opening bid was published.

  4. KBX

    would have been be a nice opportunity…

  5. red herring

    Quick question for all you trustee sale go getters.

    What happens if there is an unrecorded deed or debt that shows up after you purchase a property?

    Lets say we have a slick property owner.They make out a trust deed or other form of debt to a friend or family member.then lets say they record the day before or day of the trustees sale.Are you obligated to pay that debt that you did not know about?Or lets say they never recorded it and someone shows up to your new property saying they have a lien on the property.If you record your deed before they recorded the mysterious deed would that prevent them from collecting?

  6. Local Boy

    Jim–Not to be negative, but traveling from North County to the steps can get to be a drag–9:00 to 9:30 Bank (get checks), 10:00-12:00 auction, 1:00 back to bank, re-deposit checks. It seems like the regulars have several properties that they are prepared to bid on and in that case makes alot of sense.

  7. Genius

    Nice link doughboy. I told you guys we’d get back to 1989 pricing.

    *ducks*

  8. shadash

    This is soooo annoying. Banks suck! Get on with it already.

  9. Erica Douglass

    @doughboy: That’s a hot one! Bet it went flying off the market. I would expect an all-cash buyer to be the winner on that one. Jim, would love for you to report back on that property.

    -Erica

  10. red herring

    Great article about PMI and foreclosures.If you have PMI you are more likely to get foreclosed on.The lender is insured past 80% of the value of the home when you bought it.So the insurance money + the residual sale value could be worth more to them than a short sale.

    http://realtytimes.com/rtpages/20090420_mortgage.htm

  11. Genius

    Erica – That property has been around for quite some time, and there’s another very similar one in the same neighborhood that’s been getting stale as well. I wouldn’t expect them to sell soon, but who knows what will happen given the $115k price cut. Amazing how different the markets are between adjacent cities; if those were in Cbad they’d have sold long ago.

    Still waiting for the DM/Solana crash 😀

  12. pepsi

    Red:
    “What happens if there is an unrecorded deed or debt that shows up after you purchase a property?”

    They get wiped out.
    I believe in CA, secured lien must be recorded. If it is not recorded, it is unsecured and it goes with the first owner, not the property.

  13. Jinx

    I think it all depends on what order the debts are in. If a the holder of a second mortgage forecloses on a property and you buy it auction, you’re still on the hook for the first mortgage. But if the first lender forecloses and you buy the home at auction, then all other later liens get wiped out (except tax liens). Does that sound right?

  14. chris g

    what about mechanic’s liens? And do mechanic’s liens get filed with the county? There is considerable leeway on when a contractor can file a mechanic’s lien, too.

  15. clearfund

    don’t forget IRS liens….they trump all (including tax rolls).

    likely to become more and more of an issue over time given that a lot of these loans were issued to self employed type people with no-doc loans thus no employer/wages to handle withholding and garnishment…

  16. brian

    See this for a good summary.

    It doesn’t make sense that the IRS can jump in front of other note holders, as this would cause havoc to the mortgage industry. Someone could not pay their taxes, have the government take the house and leave the first loan holder SOL. Not a reasonable outcome.

    However, if the IRS can do this, it seems that they don’t most of the time, which makes the issue moot. The only lien to survive foreclosure is property tax. All other liens are either paid out or blown away, as they should be and as you would expect.

    BTW, I once bought a condo at foreclosure and the owner filed for bankruptcy the same day. It was a bit of a headache, but I still got ownership in the end.

  17. Clanging on Klinge

    Do You Like Cement feet ! LOL

  18. Local Boy

    Brian-The IRS can actually Redeem the property within 120 days of your purchase, at your purchase price plus interst, if they choose–not usually likely.

  19. Brian

    Yeah, that is what I said in more general terms.

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