Demand, Illusion or Real?

Written by Jim the Realtor

May 30, 2013

Comments from two readers:

1.  Can you please cover one more buyer anxiety – this one’s personal for me? I think that, after the artificial supply suppression and/or institutional investors are gone, the prices will drop. However, I’m not sure how far. So, my fear is that the prices may drop too far, which will make my purchase decision a very bad one. This is especially valid for some investment properties I’m thinking to buy.

2.  JTR, I was also thinking about the “illusion of demand”.  As both an investor and a house hunter, I see things from different points of view.  The conclusion I have come to of late is that in many of the recent bidding war or multiple offer stuations, lets say 10 offers, most likely 7 or 8 of them are from speculators/investors/flippers, with only 2 or 3 from end users, and the end users more often than not get out bid.  When this round of properties get shined up with marginal upgrades and are relisted to make a profit, will the end users still be there and will they be willing to (or more to the point, able to) pay the x+ the investor/speculator/flipper needs to make their profit?

My thoughts on each:

#1 –  Traditional investment properties are valued on their income, so you would have to believe that rents would drop for the corresponding property values to decline.  With the high difficulty of purchasing a home today, the rents should stay strong for the foreseeable future.  I don’t see any artificial supply suppression or holdbacks of normal investment properties, none getting foreclosed really.

#2  Flippers have been very successful around NSDCC, even when paying retail – but they have caught the market in the perfect upswing.  I think we will stop seeing short-sales, REO, and flippers within a year, and just see the occasional default.  It’s doubtful that the debt-tax exemption will be extended again after it expires this year, and any homeowner who has hung on this long will want to reap some equity return, or go back to making payments.

More thoughts:

An employee of Bank of America told me last week that they are finding a way to keep everyone in their house who wants to stay.  Only those borrowers who completely give up are getting foreclosed, and I’m sure every bank is taking their sweet time with the process:

San Diego County Filings

The demand is still fairly deep, and with virtually no bargains coming to market, those who are selling are reaping a nice windfall.  We got caught up in a ferocious bidding war yesterday on this property:

http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-130025750-1815_Meadowhaven_Ct_Encinitas_CA_92024

It was listed for $895,000, though the last three model-match sales were $670,000, $765,000, and $800,000 (the $670,000 was the most recent, in January).

There were eight offers at, or above list price, and all had at least 20% down.  The seller took a full-price cash offer that will close in 15 days – and left at least $50,000 on the table for that convenience.

The worst part is that there are six other losers out there for us to compete with on the next one!

7 Comments

  1. Kelja

    My fear is that it’s a completely manipulated market and the artificially low inventory is the result. Sometime – and no one knows when – something will have to give. Perhaps the Fed will lose control of the bond market and interest rates will rise to a level that impacts the market. But there’s no question the market is manipulated.

    Nationwide, the time it takes to foreclose a home went up to 400 days! http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-30/time-sell-foreclosed-homes-hits-record

  2. Jim the Realtor

    Time to foreclose has been steady around here:

    San Diego County Average Free Rent, days (in green)

  3. Jim the Realtor

    My fear is that it’s a completely manipulated market and the artificially low inventory is the result. Sometime – and no one knows when – something will have to give.

    I think everyone in the game has that figured in – the flippers are hoping not to get caught without a chair, and the owner-occupants are planning to stay forever. Those in between are renting.

    Don’t fight it, work with it!

  4. Myriad

    Concur with Jim. If you’re trying to flip, interest rates will be a factor. But if you’re an owner-occupant, the current situation will probably be as good as it can be. Lowest mortgage/income probably in the post-war years.
    http://piggington.com/monthly_payment_ratios_may_2013_homes_may_not_be_cheap_but_mortga

    I don’t think the Fed plans to sell any of their recently acquired assets. More likely they will hold to maturity and just not purchase new assets. In other words, a very slow return to normal.

  5. Booty Juice

    Gee that seller left a wad on the table for a quick close.

  6. Jim the Realtor

    The listing agent told me that she was overwhelmed after the first four offers came in, and said she had no strategy, she would just share the offers with the seller and figure it out from there.

    She was voted Realtor of the Year a couple of years ago.

    I have a set strategy with multiple offers – counter each for their highest-and-best offer.

    As listing agent, you don’t know how motivated buyers could be, or what they might come up with. In this case, it was very feasible that a financed buyer would have gone much higher AND waived the appraisal contingency.

  7. Naiyer

    Yes, I agree that market appears to be manipulated. If demands are going up, certainly the new home construction will pick up. But I think market is entering in a stable stage.

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